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In the interests of informing the public and our members, this website previously provided links to the council's website, and to copies of documents necessary to fully understand the issues.

However in July 2004, several members of our group received a letter from solicitors acting on behalf of the council, demanding that council documents and links to the council's website be removed from this website.

Lacking the financial resources to defend any action brought by the council, 5 Acres Now had no choice but to comply.

This is an extraordinary misuse of both ratepayers' funds and copyright law, in a misguided attempt to stifle free and open discussion about an important issue.

Community Liaison Group Meeting:
Summary of issues raised

 

Below is a summary of the points raised at the community liaison group meeting held on 1 February 2005, as recorded by Connell Wagner, the consultants assisting the council Working Group that is reviewing the Rural Land Study:

 

Rural Residential Subdivision

  • historic approaches for subdivision rejected repeatedly - Rural Land Study not delivered - ignored justification put forward - representations not reflected/ignored

  • water/sewer supply not a factor - tank water eg Box Hill - alternative on-site sewerage technology - self-sufficient

  • want five acre subdivision for some areas - not all rural lands

  • inconsistencies - rezoned/subdivided some areas

  • anomalies - variety of lot sizes - unjust - need logical approach

  • older community - sell off portion of land so can remain in area - families

  • balance - rural and rural-residential - economic viability

  • Rural Land Study - cut and paste from other Rural Land Study documents

  • want to retain rural character and amenity - do not want wholesale clearing of vegetation

  • small-lot subdivision does not preclude/hinder future urban development potential - just deal with it

  • new fire restrictions - some areas cannot be developed - council and state government restrictions control development

  • Rural Land Study flawed - based on ideology - question is not draft LEP but basis for draft LEP - no opportunity to comment on/influence Rural Land Study outcomes

  • 458 residents at community meetings supported subdivision

  • not interested in what other councils are doing

  • distrust of planners - outside area - impose restrictions - societal benefits but costs borne by few individuals

  • community should determine outcomes

  • do not need water or sewer - need upgraded power - impacts on water quality?

  • 69 percent of rural land 0.8-3ha lots - not huge potential for further subdivision

  • crown land - aboriginal land - development potential - need to control lot sizes

  • traffic implications of further subdivision - road upgrading requirements? - existing traffic volumes low - not local traffic - subdivision = more $ to spend

  • development limit? is there one? should the market decide?

  • rural enterprise zone = choice - should be introduced

  • Rural Land Study recognised predominant land use is rural-residential - people want to

  • live here - agriculture is dead - cannot compete

  • need to quantify number of lots that can be subdivided - may not be many - need to know

  • release of rural-residential lots will be staged and responsive to market demand

  • urgent need for growth in shire

  • anything over 5ha treated as asset - implications for aged pension

 

Cluster density subdivision

  • not practical approach - should be based on density ratio

  • forces people to live close together - opposite to what people want

 

Environmental protection

  • imposed 7(b) zone - no logical platform for delineation of zone - should be scrapped

  • disincentive to maintain bushland on private land - environment protected better without such zoning

  • environmental protection zone - loss of values - compensation

  • need for more justification/explanation for 7(b) zone - no logical answer provided - no nexus between Rural Land Study and draft LEP - 7(b) not previously mentioned during Rural Land Study process - privately funded national park - not equitable - no compensation

  • why do we need 7(b) zone? - problem is 40ha minimum lot size restriction in 7(b) zone - what happens with existing undersized lots

  • object to 7(b) zone - no compensation

  • get rid of 7(b) zone - alternative protection measures eg clearing restrictions

  • how do you guarantee bushland protection? - addressed in Rural Land Study - public vs private land - different approach? - public bushland areas sufficient

 

Village / Commercial expansion

  • why Glenorie Village expansion not considered?

  • lack of growth in Glenorie - business dying - no support services

  • village area zoning - for commercial and not for residential - not mixed use

  • design theme for villages - street trees etc - developed to attract people

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

5 acres – a reasonable minimum lot size for Sydney's outer northwest.  25 acres – ridiculous!